Saturday, 26 February 2022

Week 7 - Critical Reflection - Mathematics & poetry and novels

 Before reading further, if you haven’t read my reading summary, please read at least the summary poem “Poems are made by erasing.”

    This may have been my favourite week of the course so far; at least that is what the hours I have spent playing with and writing poetry this week tell me. It might be tied with the week were we re-created art and I got sucked into flow with tessellating trapezoids. My brain (and body) is a bit exhausted from late nights not noticing the clock but still needing to get up in the morning. Please forgive me if my writing is discombobulated in this post.

    When I reflect on my classroom practice with poetry, I see that I connected math at least implicitly, if not explicitly. I admit I was somewhat neglectful of having kids engage with reading poetry (but when I had teaching partners, they were good at that), but loved exploring the writing of poetry with them. I had a book from Scholastic that I used a bunch that taught different forms (haiku, cinquain, limerick, acrostic, ballad, and others) through examining a few examples and then scaffolding the writing (then I had students develop a book of their own poetry with at least one example of each of these and a bunch more of their choice). We were mostly counting and noticing patterns – of lines, syllables, stress, rhythm. So, I can see the mathematics connected to poetry through these experiences but this week opened up my understanding to more ways that math and poetry live together in this world.

9x9square poem by JoAnne Growney
cited in Glaz, 2019
    I appreciated how Susan, in the introduction this week, laid out three ways that “mathematics inspires poetry and novels” (p. 1): they might be about mathematics or mathematicians, they might connect mathematical ideas/concepts and human experiences (analogies, metaphor), or mathematics might be used to create/shape the writing or to analyze it. Without this guidance, I may have needed more time to figure out what mathematical poetry (my focus, I didn’t examine other literature this week) is or is not. I am not sure I have it completely figured out but Susan’s ideas helped with listening to and reading (and creating) poetry this week. I found some examples of these in my reading/viewing/creating this week. The understanding that the subject matter is what can make a poem mathematical is demonstrated in Sarah Glaz’s poems on the Bridges Math and Art 2021 Virtual Poetry Reading website. The two poems Death of Euclid and Archimedes are about the title mathematicians. (I suspect there is something mathematical about the structure of these poems as well, but I didn’t examine them that way.) Amy Uyematsu’s poem Countdown brings together counting and numbers to ‘deal with more serious political issues’, specifically shootings in the U.S. To me this is connecting mathematics and human experiences. I think the final idea, that of mathematics informing the structure of poems, is what I enjoyed exploring most through my own poetry but also finding it in others (when it was obvious). Daniel May used the Fibonacci sequence to structure his poem A Fibonacci Poem for the After where the poem grew in syllables and then contracted again based on that mathematical pattern. In the interview by Sarah Glaz of JoAnne Growney, there are a few square poems where the number of syllables on each line is matched by the total number of lines (e.g., 5x5square or 9x9square). I enjoyed creating Fibs and played with having a pattern of Pascal’s triangle structure a poem of my own creating. When creating found poems as my reading summary, I tired a 9x9square poem for the Romania section (as the poem in that section was of the same type) and it was really difficult (I had the added constraint of using someone else’s words) and time constraints had me abandon it. I am sure if I had dedicated more time to examine other poems, I would have uncovered intriguing ways mathematics structure them.

My poem structured on Pascal's Triangle

    It seems like we can define mathematical poetry pretty broadly (though some people want more constraints than others – I felt JoAnne Growney and Sarah Glaz differ on what is and isn’t mathematical poetry). So, to that end, my question is:

What is NOT mathematical poetry?


Notes for the 'stop' at 
"Poems are made by erasing" in Glaz 2019

    One of my biggest stops, big enough to involve a whole page of stops and scribbles, was when I read the section in Glaz’s interview with Growney titled “Poems are made by erasing.”  Before I had read more than the title I had scribbled “I erased so much or scratched out --> connection to math – draft solutions, back up, try something different – then make elegant.” The poem this section is framed around is called How Did It Come to This? and references Picasso’s art as “notions of a bull…in the end a few lines” (Glaz, 2019, p. 251). In the interview, Growney talks of a writing prof who shared her own draft in class and said, “’That poem has one-third too many words’” (p. 251). Here I scribbled, “Like Mozart – Eugene Oschady.” Eugene was a cellist in the VSO and a member of a local string quartet. At a quartet performance, he talked to the audience about how Mozart’s music was criticized for too many notes but Eugene argued that Mozart’s genius was knowing when he had the exact right number of notes. He played a motif from Mozart’s Symphony No. 40 and added just one extra note in the middle and end of the motif and it made the audience chuckle because sounded silly. Ironically, when I composed the found poem for this section of Glaz’s interview, I had way too many words and was going to add more. I stopped, thought about it, and scratched things down to the minimum that would get the message across.

Editing down "Poems are made by erasing" found poem

    The connection to math education here is the idea of math drafts.  We allow students first, second, third, or more drafts in writing. When do we do that in math class? I was introduced to the idea of math drafts in an NCTM webinar that I only caught the end of and haven’t gone back to watch the whole thing. However, the part I did see gave me a good idea about the concept. The idea is that students take a break from a problem and circulate the room looking at other students’ incomplete work, offering feedback and gathering inspiration for their own work. They may go back to their own work and scratch things out, start again, or have a new idea that breaks them out of being stuck.

    We can also give feedback to students on being more elegant or efficient. I don’t think elegance or efficiency should be the first goal when students are learning a concept, but as they are ready, they can develop this. For an example, I had a student who understood division using the partial quotient strategy but would only divide by 2, 5, or 10 (as I remember it – anyway, the numbers were small) even if dividing by 100 or 200 or 500 might have been more efficient. She didn’t mind working through long columns to get to her answer. I could tell she understood the concept and was able to slowly nudge her to increasing her initial numbers to be more efficient. I think this is like erasing words in writing poetry – getting rid of the extraneous to get at the essence. (If I had the inclination, I’d edit this blog post back by 1/3!)


Questions to ponder

What is NOT mathematical poetry?

What similarities do you notice between the creation of poetry or other writing and working with mathematical problems and solutions?

I’m curious to know what possibilities primary teachers see in writing mathematical poetry with students who have, generally, a smaller lexicon to draw from and relatively limited experience with math patterns and concepts compared to older students.





6 comments:

  1. Afternoon Sandra,

    First off, the visual presentation of your poem "Snow" in the form of Pascal's triangle. The choice of font combined with the royal blue background made the words dance out of the screen like snow falling from the sky. Well done.
    Your comment in your reflection from Glaz's interview with Growney "Poems are made by erasing" is valid. In order for one to write a great poem, it is definitely not from one's first attempt, and needs multiple rounds of refinement to be perfected. Is that what we do in our math practice? Are students taught how to take a problem and using similar skills to writing a good poem, the action of fixing, refining, communicating to solve? You have raised a great point in your reflection and this is something that teachers and students need to work together to build. That idea that instant solutions does not always happen, and sometimes, coming back to the problem with fresh eyes, having the feedback from the teacher or their peers would help solve and tackle a difficult math problem. When that problem is solved, can that be considered as a mathematical numeric poem to a problem? Thank you for making me ponder.

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    1. Thanks for the compliments on the snowflake poem, April! How a poem is presented, I'm finding, changes the experience for the reader (and the experience of the creator, too!).

      I don't think we do allow for drafting and refining in math activities - at least not as much as we maybe should. I'm going to keep reflecting on this to see how it might look like in practice.

      You touch on stepping away and coming back to work - that incubation time for ideas is sometimes really necessary to crack through a problem. So, if assessments are tests with a time limit, how can students get some incubation time? I guess leaving a question and coming back to it is one way. I think this is partly why tests shouldn't be the only way progress is determined and observations and conversations with students as well as products like projects, games, etc. need to feed assessment.

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  2. Sandra,

    I love your use of the word discombobulated, it’s not often you see that word written down!

    Thanks for so many interesting ideas in your post – there is so much to discuss, I wish it was a conversation and not a written post.

    I found Susan’s three types of mathematical inspiration and poetry so helpful, they broadened my thinking about the connection between mathematics and poetry, and novels too! I’ve never really considered mathematics and poetry as way to deepen understanding of mathematics, but now I see so many exciting, accessible possibilities.

    You asked about the possibilities in writing mathematical poetry with primary students. I think the possibilities are only limited by our imaginations! The two seem like a perfect fit. Young students who are just learning to read and write would embrace the structure provided by some of the types of poetry we learned about this week. I see connections with vocabulary, expressing our ideas in novel ways, making connections between math and the real world. If you haven’t seen it, you should check out the two poems written and recorded by Mahima this week, she made connections with her K/1 class. I would love to show the students the reading by Mike Naylor of “The Last Crumb – a curious mathematical tale about infinite series…and a cookie” and discuss it. It would be interesting to see what they understand and take from the poem. The mathematical patterns and concepts the young students work with would be less complex, but the poetry would be magical, I think!

    This statement that you made was a stop for me, “the connection to math education here is the idea of math drafts.  We allow students first, second, third, or more drafts in writing. When do we do that in math class?” I agree… I think there is some connection here to Peter Liljedahl’s work around the thinking classroom. I think it connects to section of the Glaz article “Poems are made by erasing”. Often, we consider erasing to be a bad thing… (which is why using white boards is beneficial – so much easier to erase – and no torn paper! – I feel like there is a math poem about that coming on…) How could we change that thinking to recognize that erasing is progress?

    Thanks for giving us lots to think about!

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    1. Thanks for picking up the primary student bit, Joy - I thought you might have something to offer there and you did! I did a math activity with kindergarten for the first time the other day - only about 25 minutes total (most wrapping up in less than 20) and I got back to the office and went straight for caffeine, I was so wiped out! I'm gradually getting more experience with primary as teachers invite me in to do model lessons or math talks.

      Anyway, thank you for the primary insight. I sort of connect this to what we were talking about on your blog about not having understanding of complex mathematical ideas ourselves so I also wondered how that might feed into mathematical poetry with younger students. I guess we meet them at their level and work with that and magical things will happen!

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  3. Thank you, Sandra … here’s to late night poetry discombobulations and gifting us with more ways in which math and poetry may dwell together in this world! I find all your poems so moving. A delight.

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